It’s your move or more likely mine, week 32

After being told by our mortgage broker that the lender would not give us a mortgage due to a section 157 applying to the property and that there was not even the smallest possibility they would consider an appeal or change their mind, the following day I went along to the estate agent to break the bad news.

Their initial reaction was not unexpected, they said how ridiculous it was and they knew plenty of people who had mortgages with a 157 in place, even one of their own staff had one. But then they recommended using one of their own mortgage advisors who was a local man and experienced in dealing with 157 loans.

I wasted no time and contacted him, he was reassuring and optimistic; we confirmed the appointment for the following Saturday.

We went through the same questions, gave the same answers, but there was a slight difference in his attitude, it seemed, I don’t know, more friendly but perhaps I was just so relieved to talk to someone who said they could help.

Two days later he rang me and said he would be able to get a mortgage for us but we would both need to have a pension and it didn’t matter if we were paying into it or not. This was a huge relief. I let the estate agent know straight away and instructed the broker to go ahead with a formal application.

Then I received an email.

Our original broker had discussed the 157 restriction with the mortgage underwriters and they had changed their mind and they would give us a mortgage after all. I couldn’t help but wonder at the earlier conversation where I had been told categorically the lender would not reconsider their decision.

But could we get a better deal from the other broker? I went through the figures and decided it was a case of better the devil you know so, not wanting to mess the new broker around, I contacted him and asked him to hold fire on everything because things had changed. He was very understanding and wished us well.

Within three days we had the formal mortgage offer in writing.

On the same day I contacted the East Devon District Council to find out what decision had been made regarding our application to buy the property – as we haven’t lived in East Devon for three or more years (we’ve lived here for just over 2 years), we had to make a special application to the council.

I eventually spoke to them. Our application had been refused.

One step forward, two steps back.

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It’s your move or more likely mine, week 31

Remember the days when you had to go for a face to face interview with your bank manager each time you needed a loan? There was no online banking and definitely no call centres in countries you had never even seen. There was that nervous feeling, that worry you might say something you shouldn’t, perhaps let something slip, you are on your guard.

Well sitting at our kitchen table on Saturday morning with the mortgage broker was a bit like that. Whilst I had ‘known’ him for over 5 years,  it had been via email, so there was an element of the unknown as he started to trawl through our financial past in minute detail.

Most people, when asked for their addresses over the past 5 years, give one or perhaps two different ones, we gave four. In fact we showed him the list of houses we have lived in since 2000; it’s 13. That’s 13 moves we have made in 17 years, five of them because the landlord wanted to sell the house we were renting. That’s why we want to buy a place of our own.

Then we went through our income, outgoings, debts, credit cards, loans; every single piece of our dirty financial laundry was hung out to dry.

But the broker was confident. He had found a company who was willing to lend to us despite our ages and with a fixed rate that meant we wouldn’t face an interest hike due to the Brexit fallout.

By the time he left we felt buoyed and quite positive.

On Wednesday I was at an all day workshop so my phone was switched off. I picked up my messages during the lunch break. There was a message from the mortgage broker saying quite bluntly that the lender had refused the loan due to the section 157.

It wasn’t just the carpet that had been pulled out from under me, it was the whole house. Having been so close, been reassured it would be plain sailing that we met the criteria, it was a local housing restriction that had put the spanner in the works.

It made no sense, even if they had to repossess the property, with the size of our deposit they would easily get their money back. The section 157 was simply a measure put in place to stop second homers which I didn’t disagree with, but no matter what I said, it all fell on deaf ears. The decision had been made by the lender and there was no going back, no possibility of reversing their decision, no chance of them changing their mind.

After waiting so long, getting the small lifeline that meant we could finally get back onto the property ladder, what had seemed so close was once more a very long way away.

I returned to my workshop with a very heavy heart.

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It’s your move or more likely mine, week 30

Having found a house we liked and a price agreed, it was time to go back to the broker with the good news.

There had been quite a few different numbers thrown at us since we had first made inroads into getting a mortgage; a £200k mortgage with a £30k deposit would be 85% loan to value (LTV) on a 2 year fixed rate of 2.14% = £1025/month

Another deal was based on £197k + deposit over 19 years with a 2 year fixed rate at 1.59% would be £1006/month

Both these were a little bit higher than I hoped; I thought of our mortgage we first took out back in the 90s that cost around £650/month and had we kept that mortgage, not only would it have been paid off by now, but we would own our home outright. I hate hindsight.

Having obtained every possible bit of financial information, our broker now asked for copy driving licences, passports, utility bills, council tax bills and wage slips.

A couple of days later the broker said the best deals he found were a 2 year fixed rate at 1.59% giving a £930/month mortgage payment or a 5 year fixed rate at 2.29% giving a £991/month payment.

This was closer to what I was hoping.

He sent a ‘link attached to a portal’ where we could log on to see what was happening to our application and he made an appointment to come and see us on the Saturday to go through the final details.

This was the closest we had been in over 12 years to securing our own home, there was a feeling of jubilation combined with trepidation but also doubt, it was all just a bit too easy.

But then we hadn’t yet heard anything from the East Devon District Council as to our application under Section 157.

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It’s your move or more likely mine, week 29

After going for my first serious property viewing, I thought it must have been fate that threw me into the hands of this particular estate agent because she told me about a house that they were about to take on that I might be interested in.

When I discovered it was just three houses down from where we live, I jumped at the chance and told her we definitely wanted to see it. Trouble was, the owners were away on holiday and no matter how keen we were, there was nothing the agent could do. But I am nothing if not tenacious, so just to be sure the agent wasn’t mistaken, I popped a note through the door of said house explaining our plight and how much we would appreciate it if we could take a look round and be given first refusal. Of course I knocked on the door, be churlish not to, but of course there was no reply.

So we waited, impatiently.

But a week later the owners returned and a couple of days later we were shown round. Funny thing is, the agent hadn’t even been round up to that point, so I’m guessing they were hoping for a quick and easy sale that wouldn’t even involve a ‘For Sale’ board.

The house was dated, probably a good 25 years since it had anything done to it, but that didn’t daunt us, we wanted something we could mould into shape. The loft was big enough for a conversion which meant we could add the extra space by going up rather than out. The garden was a reasonable size too. It all looked very promising. I would have been happy to make an offer there and then but my OH wasn’t quite so keen and wanted to sleep on it.

So we returned for a second look and this time made an offer. Of course it wasn’t accepted but we met in the middle and agreed on a price.

It’s a weird feeling, when you’ve lived in rented houses for so long, you forget what house buying is all about, I can just about remember the excitement I felt when we used to buy houses 18+ years ago, but it’s a different emotion now, instead of the thrill, the excitement of what the future might hold, wondering if you will stay there or move up the property ladder; I felt relief.

Relief that we wouldn’t have the ever likely possibility that the owner would turn up one day and tell us they wanted to sell the house so we had to get out, or the letting agent turning up every three months to do a property inspection, or having to accept a poorly equipped bathroom and a kitchen that was put together with leftovers from some other property.

But I could start putting all that behind me now, we had seen a house we liked, we had agreed a price, all we needed now was the final mortgage approval and to jump through the hoops of the East Devon District Council under their Section 157 that restricts who can buy ex local authority houses.

Nothing we couldn’t handle.

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It’s your move or more likely mine. Week 27-28

After receiving a reassuring email from our mortgage broker, whilst making no promises, I decided to progress my viewing of properties in the newspaper to viewing them in the flesh. I had registered with all the online property markets; Zoopla, Right Move and Prime Location listing my criteria, but as ever, that was completely pointless because I ended up with everything being emailed including empty shops and plots of land.

I have accepted I’m not going to have my four-bed, two reception room detached house with garden and driveway and because property prices in west Dorset have been put beyond the reach of many people due to the number of second homes and holiday homes that are often empty for five months of the year (don’t get me started), I have had to compromise and following the government’s right to buy scheme, there are occasionally houses that come onto the market that are reasonably priced.

Two such properties did come up that were within our budget and had the right number of bedrooms. It was also within walking distance of work which was a huge bonus.

I managed to get an appointment to view one of them, the owners of the other house failed to respond to the agent’s request.

It was a warm sunny July day and it took me 12 minutes to walk to the semi detached with off-road parking for one and a half vehicles and a small back garden. The front door was at the side of the house; I’m not sure if it had once been at the front and moved at some stage in its refurbishment. It had an entrance hall with stairs leading up to the first floor. It looked good so far.

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There was a reasonable sized lounge/diner that must have been two separate rooms at one time and the lounge led into a small conservatory. However the galley-kitchen was tiny and I have a hunch it used to be the downstairs bathroom (these houses were built in the 1930s and 40s when for some reason the bathrooms were put downstairs and a lot of people have sacrificed a bedroom and moved the bathroom upstairs). There was no downstairs loo either.

It wasn’t looking quite so good.

Upstairs there were still three bedrooms, one was just about a double and the other two were singles, part of one of them had obviously been carved off to create a shower room but not a bathroom.

I imagined what it would be like first thing in the morning with two teenage sons and a husband, there was not a hope of surviving in a house with just one small shower room and without a second loo – it wouldn’t be long before blood was drawn!

I tried to look at ways of increasing the floor space, but without some major rebuilding, it would be impossible.

So whilst it was within our budget, it was a long way from what we wanted.

But it was the first one I had looked at and when the agent mentioned another property they are about to take on that might be of interest, my ears pricked up…


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It’s your move, or more likely mine. Week 26


We had a breakthrough this week.

If you’ve been following this blog you will know we have been renting for over 13 years, since the first day we moved south from Bedford. We were also renting for the last 3 years we lived in Bedford, although for different reasons, so strictly speaking we’ve been living in someone else’s house paying their mortgage/into their pension for over 16 years. That is virtually all of my oldest son’s life and all of my youngest who has never known what it’s like to have his own home.

For the past 7 years we have been renting because we had no choice due to the changes in lending rules; despite paying out well over £100,000 in rent we were apparently a bad risk.

But not anymore; as I said there has been a breakthrough that has only recently happened.

Two weeks ago the mortgage broker received our company accounts; I was banking on those to prove we met the criteria. My role at work had also changed from zero hours to a part-time job which I felt sure would help.

I couldn’t help but notice he was less than positive about the news, but he still asked  more questions and for a copy wage slip.

However, when I moved from part-time to full-time he told me it was a game-changer and suddenly the questions became more meaty and searching. Suddenly we were eminently more desirable to lenders.

  • Middle names
  • NI numbers
  • Previous addresses in last three years, etc

He has told me we should be able to get a mortgage for around £200,000 + the deposit we now have and my new salary meant we had moved from 1 bed flat territory to a 3 bed semi. Okay, not the house I expected to be living in by this time in my life, but who cares? It will be our house, no one else’s. No more letting agents making us feel like second class citizens, no more 3-monthly inspections, no more danger of being asked to move out because the landlord wants to sell.

More choice of décor, more choice of bathroom fittings, more choice of floor coverings instead of making do with threadbare off-cuts that have no underlay, more time to think about what we want to do with our home.

After I read and re-read his email confirming we would be able to get a mortgage, I sat staring at the words and smiled a very big smile.

I wanted to tell my sons straight away but they have the impatience of youth and wouldn’t understand that we now have to go through a lengthy process of actually getting the mortgage offer in writing. If I told them my youngest son would already be planning what puppy he would get and where he’d put the chicken run.

But for me, eversince I read that email I have had a very warm feeling inside I haven’t felt in a very long time.

It’s probably that light at the end of the tunnel that has suddenly become so much brighter.

Of course we are not out of the mire yet and I know there are going to be many more questions we have to answer, but I have allowed myself the luxury of looking at the property pages without thinking what’s the point?

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It’s your move, or more likely mine. Week 22-25

starThe weeks have flown by haven’t they. I cannot believe we are over the half way point for 2017. By now I had expected to not only have sorted out a mortgage but be well on the way to finding a property that matched our lending limit. I nagged my husband to get the company accounts emailed to our accountant the moment 5 April arrived and I similarly tallied up my earnings for the year, which given the fact I held down five different part-time jobs was no easy task.

But by the second week of April everything was emailed. Now for the waiting.

I had dropped a few hints to the accountant that would hopefully get things moving, things like: ‘look forward to hearing from you very soon’ and ‘fingers crossed you will have some good news for our mortgage broker’ and ‘I am so desperate to get a mortgage, please hurry up’.

But the weeks passed, just a bit too quickly and each week I hoped to hear the sound of a heavy A4 sized enveloped falling with a thud in the porch. But no thud came.

Two weeks ago I emailed him enquiring how things were going, then a phone call, another email and finally a pleading begging email.

The accounts finally came through last week, the first week of July; three months later than I had hoped.

But all was forgiven and I quickly despatched them to our mortgage broker who replied by return…with more questions that required reverting to the accountant:

  • What was my salary for last two financial years
  • What dividend had I been paid for last two financial years
  • Could he see proof of a pension fund
  • Could he see a wage slip
  • What was my current salary
  • Ditto my husband

I groaned in despair.

But instead of another three months, it was less than a day before the reply came back.

I felt elated and the closest I have felt for several years to securing a mortgage. The company accounts looked good, we had a small deposit and all debts paid off, what better risk could any mortgage company have than that?

Then the slow deflation began; he thinks it best to talk over the phone.

After the months of agonising waiting for the end of the financial year, after months of waiting to secure a small deposit, after years and years of living in rented houses, the light at the end of the tunnel has started to dim just a little.

I’m working full-time now so a phone call during the day is not so easy, that means an evening call which will be subject to the usual evening chaos. I’m hopeful he will give me some good news but fear he may not.

I was hoping to book a very short family holiday this summer, I’m thinking that if the broker says the only mortgage we can get is too small to buy a postage stamp so you may as well forget it, I may well blow caution to the wind and book an amazing full-blown bells and whistles kind of holiday and resign myself to many more months financing someone else’s pension.

But maybe he has some good news, I guess I’ll have to wait some more. I just hope it won’t be another half year before I hear anything.

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